I don’t know what ticks me off more: folks who reflexively impugn people of faith, or folks who deliberately misunderstand/misquote/misrepresent what people have said.
It’s probably a tie.
Which brings me to a recent conversation between MSNBC’s Al Sharpton and political analyst Dr. Victoria DeFrancesco Soto:
“Would Jesus want to turn away people with preexisting conditions? Would Jesus want to see millions upon millions of people who do not have access to affordable health-care go without?
I would aspire to think that the answer is no.”
Hey, Doc Soto! Maybe it’s cause you’re so darn smart, but obviously I have a substantially higher opinion of the Almighty’s brainpower than do you. ‘Cause I’m guessing that Jesus is bright enough to have realized that we could have addressed both problems that you mentioned, WITHOUT razing the entire freakin’ health care system to the ground.
And He wouldn’t have hidden His solution behind a burgeoning wall of deceit and intimidation, either. Him being God, I feel especially confident about that one…
Oh, and about those two examples of yours, and speaking as a longtime insurance guy:
Pre-existing conditions were something that the insurance industry has been addressing right along. However, I think your problem lies with a fundamental misunderstanding of what “insurance” actually is, but maybe not. Maybe you just forgot that insurance is about protecting folks against the unknown, or at least the not completely known. By definition, pre-existing conditions are “knowns”, which is why they are problematic when it comes to insurance.
To put it another way: insurance measures and affixes a price to the difference between the likelihood of something happening and the certainty of something happening. The smaller the difference (meaning: the more likely the potential risks are to occur), the more the coverage costs. And if someone already HAS such-&-such condition, then logically there’s no way to actually insure against them getting it: they’ve already got it. At that point, the difference between the likelihood of something happening and the certainty of something happening is now zero.
How exactly do you “insure” against getting something which you already have?
There are a number of ways to address this, whether through better portability of coverage, or separating coverage from employment, or a host of other options. But one thing is for sure: redefining “insurance” isn’t one of them.
And as far as people who “do not have access to affordable health care”, that’s a complete crock and you know it. People cannot be turned away in Emergency Rooms in the United States, ever. Moreover, we spend billions on free health care for the indigent (Medicaid), and get virtually nothing in return by way of improved health results.
Both of your rhetorical questions are nothing more than discredited talking points, barely rising to the level of pabulum. Honestly, I was hoping for more from someone whose curriculum vitae says you’re supposed to be kinda brainy.
Lastly, Michelle Bachman’s words were those of a normal, Bible-believing Christian who believes that only by humbling ourselves before God through prayer will He listen to us:
“God listens to his people and I think if believers humble themselves, confess their sins, and pray, I think God hears from us, hears our hearts and He moves, He moves in miraculous ways,”
Doesn’t mean our prayers will be answered in the way that we hope: only that He will listen. I know that sounds loony-toons to you, but it’s an entirely normal belief for a majority of the country. And mocking Bachmann’s belief with your phony argument (such as it was) is nothing short of pathetic.
Speaking of pathetic, according to the newest Obamacare poll, you’ve totally and completely lost this debate.
But keep it up, Doc; you and your buddies aren’t winning any converts with efforts like this. You’re only preaching to an ever-dwindling crowd.
He would never approve of forcing something on anyone and certainly that is what obamacare does. Jesus would want everyone to receive proper health care but not how this goes about doing it. Always ironic when the liberal media speaks of Jesus or God its only to support something they approve of.
Very astute, Blaine.
Yes, apparently the Left believes the Almighty to only be an acceptable reference when He can be made to back-up one of their ideological objectives, …even if they have to lie about what He actually said or believed.
Which misses the whole point by more than just a little, I’d say.
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That’s where I go to find out what Jesus wants — MSNBC.
I love the massive generalizations they always give: What? You are in favor of turning people with pre-existing conditions away from healthcare? What other reason could you have for opposing the president?
Distortions. That’s what I have against this president, and sycophants at MSNBC. To anyone who actually buys into this twaddle, you have my prayers.
Yep: lies, distortions, half-truths, omissions, prevarications, and outright whoppers, …all told in furtherance of the biggest, most partisan law ever passed in our nation.
Over at NRO, one of the commenters (Paul Hogue) had the following excellent line, which I will need to remember for future use:
Seriously, that just needs to be on a shirt or a coffee mug, soon.
***And for the 2nd day in a row, James, you get verbiage Bonus Points: this time for “twaddle”, a truly underrated word.
Jesus does not approve of the murdering of His children while they are in the womb.
Jeremiah 1:4&5 (easy to read version)
4 The Lord’s message came to me:
5 “Before I made you in your mother’s womb,
I knew you.
Before you were born,
I chose you for a special work.
I chose you to be a prophet to the nations.”
Psalm 139:15-18 (easy to read version)
15 You could see my bones grow as my body took shape,
hidden in my mother’s womb.
16 You could see my body grow each passing day.
You listed all my parts, and not one of them was missing.
17 Your thoughts are beyond my understanding.
They cannot be measured!
18 If I could count them, they would be more than all the grains of sand.
But when I finished, I would have just begun.
People who don’t KNOW Jesus, should not claim to know what He wants.
He would approve of charity and taking care of people for sure but He would not approved of mandatory charity by mandatory taxation.
Obamacare is wealth redistribution and punitive taxation and we all know what Jesus thought of taxes.
You could say Obamace is little more than “caring” for people at the tip of a Roman spear.
Also, it has nothing to do with Jesus a all. This is typical secularist bashing of Christians for not being “Christian enough.”
What they mean is, “if you were good Christians, you would believe exactly as I do.”
Too bad there is not ‘like’ button… spot on!
Thank you. The “logic” those people use is easy to refute.
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But would he approve of MSNBC?
Well, Jesus DID hang out with prostitutes and other folks of questionable character back then, …so who knows?
He DID come to save the lost. Hard to imagine a more deserving crowd than the folks at MSNBC. The only problem for them would be that they would EXPECT salvation WITHOUT any action on THEIR part.
Yes, I’d assume that MSNBC would view the gift of salvation as a “Civil Right”….
Well….if you really want to get down to it, Jesus healed/heals by FAITH. So, Dr. Soto, please join me in preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and encourage EVERYONE to confess their sins before Him and accept Him as their Lord and Savior. In fact, we could go a LONG way to also healing the moral decay that is eroding our national fabric.
I am not at all surprised by these heinous attempts by the Left to do their normal “spin” job on ANY subject, including The Lord. I’m no prognosticator, but the Scriptures speak very clearly to the signs of the end days, among which are the false Christs and the false teachings that will even lead astray the weaker Christian….
There needs to be a “like” button for this entire conversation. I am hitting it. Repeatedly. I LIKE all you intelligent, faithful, articulate commenters who are able to see through the knee-jerk emotional smoke bombs constantly being set off by liberal media in order to befuddle already mindless citizenry. Whoa. That sentence was too long. Sorry.
I think I pulled my eye muscle on THAT sentence!! LOL!
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Also, it has nothing to do with Jesus a all. This is typical secularist bashing of Christians for not being “Christian enough.” I love this line, it is so true. His ways are not our ways. I am very leery of Rev Sharpton and his point of view as being what Jesus would do.