Debate #3: Romney vs. Obama, and why President Petulant came up short

A few things stood out from the 3rd Presidential debate Monday night:

  1. It was a closely battled 90 minutes; no clear knock-out came from either side.
  2. Obama has finished his transformation from the cool, calculated guy in 2008 to the peevish, whiny man we see before us today. The behavior he exhibited is never an attractive sight on anyone, but when it’s displayed by the President it’s downright pathetic.
  3. The President told a couple of whoppers which will undoubtedly come back to haunt him over the next few days.
  4. Mitt had the line of the evening.

First, let’s cover their behavior. Both men seemed a little keyed-up at the outset. Mitt almost seemed like he had too much info in his head, and he struggled to get it out for the first couple of topics. Reminded me of my oldest son when he’s really excited about something, and he can’t get his mouth to work as fast as his brain. Thankfully, Romney hit his stride after that.

In contrast, Obama was clenching his jaw so hard that he’s almost guaranteed to require emergency dental work by now. He also glowered and stared at Romney as if Mitt had just taken the last good tee time on Sunday. Do you remember Anakin’s face at the end of ‘Revenge of the Sith’? Obama didn’t appear even half that friendly.

Over the days that follow, the Lefty blogs will almost certainly be talking about a couple of lines that the President got off, with the one concerning the Auto Industry bailout likely leading the pack. That was a great sounding line, I agree.

If it had actually been true, it would have been even better.

From the American Thinker:

When Romney said, during the debate, that in 2008 he favored a managed bankruptcy for Detroit’s auto makers, with federal guarantees for post-bankruptcy financing, Obama directly claimed this was a falsehood, repeatedly saying, “Check the record.” 

Here’s the record, via Mitt Romney’s New York Times op-ed from November 18, 2008.  Allow me to quote one representative sentence from that op-ed:

“The federal government should provide guarantees for post-bankruptcy financing and assure car buyers that their warranties are not at risk.”

Romney was completely consistent with his 2008 position on this during the debate.  Obama attempted to thwart him using the typical leftist method: lie through your teeth, and hope no one notices.  Let’s hope enough people are noticing these days.

The entire 2008 New York Times op-ed can be found here, but the final two paragraphs summarize Romney’s view on Bailout:

The American auto industry is vital to our national interest as an employer and as a hub for manufacturing. A managed bankruptcy may be the only path to the fundamental restructuring the industry needs. It would permit the companies to shed excess labor, pension and real estate costs. The federal government should provide guarantees for post-bankruptcy financing and assure car buyers that their warranties are not at risk.

In a managed bankruptcy, the federal government would propel newly competitive and viable automakers, rather than seal their fate with a bailout check.

Gee, that almost sounds like the sort of logical, measured suggestion which a businessman would prescribe. Fancy that.


I said at the top that Romney had the best line of the night. That’s because even though Obama had a couple of zingers, they both were provably false (more on that later). In Mitt’s case, his best line was spot on:

Mr President, America has not dictated to other nations. We have freed other nations from dictators,” Romney said. 

If Romney had that line in his hip pocket, good for him on playing it perfectly. If he came up with it on the spot, that’s just pure genius.

Obama was on the attack all night, a stance which went well with his “eyes-of-death” stare. However, as we’ve observed so often before, when pressured Obama simply lies. The following statement will cause some headaches for the Obama camp in the campaign’s final two weeks.

Courtesy of The

Romney accused Obama of allowing the military to be cut to historically low levels through $1 trillion in cuts set to occur over the next decade because of last year’s Budget Control Act and sequestration.

“Our Navy is smaller now than any time since 1916,” Romney said. “The Navy said it needed 313 ships, now it’s down to 285, and it’s headed down to the low 200’s if we go through sequestration. That’s unacceptable to me.”

Obama responded by saying: 

“First of all, the sequester is not something that I’ve proposed. It is something that Congress has proposed. It will not happen,” Obama said. 

Two things wrong with that. First, saying that “it will not happen” doesn’t allow for a whole lot of wiggle room in the future. Seeing as how we still have Congress’ lame duck session coming up, that one statement could severely weaken his bargaining power during the upcoming spending & tax discussions when Congress is back in town.

Second, it’s all well & good for Obama to blame the sequester on Congress (George W. Bush must have slipped his mind for the moment), but according to Bob “Watergate” Woodward’s new book, it was the President’s idea.

From Politico:

The book “The Price of Politics,” by Washington Post Associate Editor Bob Woodward, makes it clear the idea for the draconian spending cuts originated in the White House – and not in Congress.

So, in one brief statement, he managed to create not one but two major problems for himself. Way to go, Sparky.

But the real question for the evening was: how did everybody ELSE react?

Over on MSNBC, they of course felt that President Perfect had done his normal dazzling job. We were also treated to the now clichéd explanation for what is behind the stupid, backwards Neanderthals (like me) who still steadfastly opposed their Hearthrob-In-Chief:

Chris Matthews: “I think they hate Obama. They want him out of the White House more than they want to destroy al Qaeda. Their number one enemy in the world right now, on the right, is their hatred – hatred for Obama. We can go into that about the white working class in the south and looking at these numbers we’re getting about racial hatred in many cases. This isn’t about being a better president. They want to get rid of this president.”

So, just in case you forgot, opposing Obama equates to your being a racist. I know I occasionally forget that about myself, so I’m rather grateful for the reminder. Gracias, Chris!

Over on Twitter, the reaction was somewhat different:

And Charles Krauthammer had this, which I basically agree with:


Oh, and here’s the full debate, as always:


Once again, the networks gave the edge to Obama. And once again, I think that won’t make a scintilla of difference. When you’ve lost the momentum, you need a big play to get it back. Monday night’s affair didn’t have it, and may have easily caused more headaches than it solved for President Petulant’s camp.

However, now that the debates are finally (thankfully) over, it all comes down to us. WE are in charge of who wins & loses. WE have the power to either fight or roll over and play dead (& in the case of Obamacare, that may well be literal). WE will be pulling the voting lever and continuing over the cliff, or trying to begin the slow, agonizing crawl away from the edge.

Call. Donate time &/or $$. Knock on doors. Talk with neighbors. Put up a sign.  Do something

Time is short. Use it wisely.

27 responses to “Debate #3: Romney vs. Obama, and why President Petulant came up short

  1. “Petulant”… my word exactly. Doesn’t wear well on POTUS.

    • That word popped into my head to describe Obama years ago.
      He’s done nothing to dissuade me from applying it to him.

      He’s an adult male version of Veruca Salt, ….minus her little-girl charm, of course.

  2. Now we know why this guy has hidden behind a teleprompter for the last four years.

  3. LivinRightinPGH

    Another CLEAR example of “Rhetoric vs Reality”. The aptly described “President Petulant” has LOADS of the first, and little of the latter. There are SO MANY comments I’d like to make, but JTR always jokingly refers to my “books” disguised as comments….LOL! So, I’ll hit just a few items:

    1. The President SIGNED the sequestration bill.
    2. We ARE spending (and WILL spend) less on defense, contrary to Obama’s assertions. FY 2010 spending was $721 Billion. Under O’s plan, it falls to $566 billion in FY 2014.
    3. Al-Queda is only “on the run” in as much as it’s running in Yemen, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Egypt, and now, Northern Mali.
    4. Obama talks about bringing our soldiers home. But to what? Adding them to the 23 MILLION who can’t find work?

    Romney nailed it with the “a strong America begins at home” mantra.

    BTW: What was the “street organizer’s” quals to be Commander in Chief in 2008?

    • Actually, that WAS rather pithy for you.
      You’re right on all counts, Pgh. And Obama’s qualification was that “He was the one we’d been waiting for”.
      Someday we’ll look back on this period of time and the next generation will ask, “Okay, tell me again exactly HOW this dude ever got elected in the 1st place?”

  4. Good coverage on that shell game Ibama was pulling. GM was a great example. Obama likely never read it….but he did stay at a Holiday Inn once. The title of his op-ed was posted by the editor. Did you notice everytime Romney was hitting the nerve Obama clenched up and interupted or tried to change the subject? Just dismissing the points is not a debate. As to GM, imagine Obama telling people to check the record? Every ugly tactic he could think of including fingernails. And this is how he treated the people during ObamaCare. I’m surprsed Obama knows anything seeing how he was preoccupied at the time. The true nasty Obama was revealed. And the stare was hollow and empty since he really wasn’t listening. The condescending arrogance about horses and bayonetts was scripted but nasty. Its what happens when he is cornered. Obama wasn’t at a debate, he was in a foodfight.

    • You’re right, Bullright….GM IS a great example. The only thing that was saved was the auto workers union. Ask the folks at Delphi how they did with the loss of jobs AND pensions. Ask the over 100,000 folks who lost their jobs at dealerships that were closed. Ask the GM bondholders who had the LAW pulled out right from underneath of them by Obama, and got 20 cents on the dollar for their investment. And finally, ask the CBO how much we are still owed, and what the final cost to the taxpayers (per “job saved”) it all amounts to…..

      • Yea, and that’s exactly where he was cutting off Romney from spilling the ugly facts.

        • Just an idea:
          In four years, replace the moderators with a “Hand-over-mouth”-erator. SO, when your turn to speak is over, a gigantic, remote-control “hand” covers the candidate’s mouth, not allowing them to speak until it’s their turn again.

          Back in the day, when we used something called “manners”, this wasn’t necessary. But now?
          Personally, I like the idea…

          • Good idea for politicians. Manners right. What do those Marxists teach their kids these days? But hey, we saw what they did to anyone who interupts king zero when he’s speaking. (The reporter at the WH press conference) Obama seemed to think the whole event was there for his purpose. And, the liar was out in force too.

            • Obama isn’t as smooth a liar as Clinton was, but he most certainly is just as brassy about his lies.

              I’m going to thoroughly enjoy the next couple of weeks, as I work my tail off to ensure this guy gets a 1-way ticket OUT of Washington…

              Thanks for being here, bullright!

    • Thanks so much for the comments, Bullright.
      “Nasty” DOES seem to be one of the primary descriptions used today for Obama’s demeanor, and I completely agree.

      He just appeared more negative, bitter, angrier, and just generally not the guy that you even want fixing your car, …
      …not to mention your COUNTRY.

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  6. Fantastic Post, JTR!

    Krauthammer nailed it: The highpoint of the debate for Romney was when he devastatingly leveled the charge of Obama going around the world on an apology tour. To sum it up, Romney came across saying this: That’s right Mr. President, this isn’t a game of Battleship; you’ve been playing “Sorry!” for the last 4 years.

    • Thanks so much, James. And Charles did crush him: that apology tour was what really started the bile in my stomach years ago about Obama. And just like with everything else, only HE would go on that tour, apologize to everyone whom he can find, …
      …& then say, “I didn’t do that; you’re crazy”.

  7. We have things called aircraft carriers??

  8. Great post and it was good for someone like me who missed the debate and only caught some highlights. Obama’s zinger about horses and bayonets has been trashed today as well. Poor Obama, and the debate prep team spent so much time going over that with him!

    • Thanks, Cosmo! I think there’s a bit of a “Wile E. Coyote” feel to Obama’s campaign this year, as if all of his weapons came from ACME or something.

      I knew O’s zingers (especially the ‘horses/bayonet’ one) would be covered to death, so there’s no need for me to give air to it.

      I didn’t include the clip of this, but you can find it easily: Chris Wallace saying that if he’d just arrived here from a desert island, he’d have thought Romney was the incumbent and Obama was the challenger.

      And I can’t argue with that at all.

  9. I love how you associated Obama’s stare with Star Wars! I told my friend last night “It looks like Obama is trying to use the Force on Romney. ‘These are not the droids you are looking for.'” HA! We think a lot alike JTR. 😀

    My favorite line of the evening was when Romney said “I’m not going to wear rose-colored glasses when it comes to Russia, or Mr. Putin. And I’m certainly not going to say to him, I’ll give you more flexibility after the election.”

    • Thanks, DD!
      That “Russia” line by Romney WAS excellent. Of course, he had several good ones and more than held his own against Barry.

      If we keep up the pressure, it’s “buh-bye Barry”. We simply can’t let up now….

  10. THIS just in: Obama decrees that all future wars will be fought between him and the leader of the adversary’s regime using “Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3.” And, since he spends more time playing that game, and is better at it, HE should be elected for 4 more years.

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