Thy Will Be Done

Oh, those wacky atheists are at it again.

First up is a report from Canada, where a local town council has been ruining, ruining, a guy’s life ……by reciting the Lord’s Prayer prior to the start of their meetings.

From Canada’s National Post:

Claiming the recitation of the Lord’s Prayer causes him anguish and feelings of exclusion, a man in rural Ontario is suing his local government to get politicians to cease praying at the start of their meetings.

It’s the latest in a series of legal actions, supported by the advocacy group Secular Ontario, seeking to eradicate the practice in at least 18 cities, towns and counties across the province.

On Monday, the lawyer for the 20-member group filed a lawsuit against Grey County council on behalf of Peter Ferguson, saying the Christian tradition caused him “anguish, discrimination, exclusion, rejection and loss of enjoyment of life.”

Mr. Ferguson, who lives in Grey County, near Owen Sound, is looking for $5,000 in damages along with a court order for county council to stop opening its meetings in prayer.

“Anguish” and “Loss of Enjoyment of Life”, all being caused by listening to a 30 second prayer? Give me a break. I know that I have to put up with all sorts of Leftist pap in my life, much of it coming from the government: “Don’t smoke (anywhere)”; “Help Fight Global Warming”; or even “Buy a Chevy Volt! (Hey, you basically own the company, so you might as well..)”.

Am I supposed to cry about it and stomp my feet, like poor Mr. Ferguson?

Heck, there’s at least one such ad (especially the smoking ones) on most of the DVDs I rent. Uh-oh….. I feel an acute attack of “Anguish” coming on. May I sue someone now?

Now, the folks on the other side of the aisle are probably screaming, “This is really about the Separation of Church and State!!” at their computer screens right now, which is fine, except: this incident was in Canada, and has nothing to do with Thomas Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptists back in 1802. However, if anyone would like to visit a wonderful post on that particular argument, go over to It truly is worth sharing and/or bookmarking.

Good? Good…

Now that THAT’S settled, let’s take a peek at another news article a little closer to home, over in Steubenville, OH. From Catholic News Agency:

In response to a threatened lawsuit from an atheist group, the Steubenville, Ohio city council says it will remove from its new city logo an image of the Franciscan University of Steubenville’s chapel.

“For more than 65 years, Franciscan University of Steubenville has proudly served as an integral part of this community and we were honored to have our chapel included in the new city of Steubenville logo.”

The city’s present logo, unveiled in December 2011, displays in silhouette the downtown cityscape and various landmarks of the city including Historic Fort Steuben, the Veterans Memorial Bridge and Franciscan University’s Christ the King Chapel.

The Wisconsin-based Freedom From Religion Foundation had threatened legal action over the logo’s inclusion of the chapel and the cross.

Annie Laurie Gaylor told the Steubenville Herald-Star that the logo is a symbol “that Steubenville is a theocracy and is a Christian city where non-Christians or non-believers are not favored citizens.”

She said a Steubenville citizen had contacted her organization to complain about the logo, which Gaylor said violates the U.S. Constitution because it includes the chapel.

“While we understand that Franciscan University is a part of the city, the city may not depict the university chapel and cross because to do so places the city’s imprimatur behind Christianity,” she said.

Ah, yes, more intolerance from the purveyors of tolerance.

So, how exactly does having the town logo include one of the largest (heck, one of the only) employers in Steubenville place the “city’s imprimatur behind Christianity”? Am I missing something here? I don’t recall anything from my years of school (or from 20+ years in business) that says any depiction, any reference, and any mention of government must be scrubbed of any and all religious connotations, inferences or actual representations, even when used as a business and/or educational institution.

Would someone get me a copy of that memo, so I can update my files?

Wait a sec. I see it now. The group’s name. Yes, yes…it’s our old friend, the ‘Freedom From Religion Foundation’. Come on now, how am I supposed to take ’em seriously with  a name like that? We’ve covered them before, and there’s no need to rewrite that whole post again here. Suffice it to say that anyone who thinks including a chapel’s cross in the city logo somehow makes that city a “theocracy” is either lying their pants off, or has more issues than I am qualified to address.  Do these folks also assume that everybody sporting a cross tattoo or cross jewelry MUST BE a born-again Christian?

Here’s another question: what about cities that have religious names? Hey now, isn’t it a whole-lotta-bunches worse for a city to be named after a Christian saint than just to have a teensy-weensy cross in a logo (which most folks will never see)? So, cities like San Diego, San Francisco, St. Louis or even Los Angeles must all be “theocracies”…right?

(insert cricket noises here: _________)


I do start to get tired of this battle, day after day. You probably do, too. But we can’t walk away, or skip over the next headline we see. I’m convinced that’s part of the Left’s animating strategy: just keep up a continuous attack, year in and year out, and eventually we’ll just shrug our shoulders and say, “Ehhh, it’s not worth it.”

Well, it IS worth it.

Properly motivated, as we just saw in report after report about Chick-fil-A on Wednesday, the American Christian is a mighty force. However, we can’t forget that battles like that are just skirmishes, and not the war. The war is being waged, every day, whether or not we choose to fight it.

Sorta makes the whole “Thy will be done” part of The Lord’s Prayer even more meaningful when you think about it.


UPDATE: The town of Steubenville has put the logo change on hold. Seems some folks got a tad riled over this, and decided they’d like to discuss it further.

Amen, guys. Amen.

22 responses to “Thy Will Be Done

  1. Last time I saw a reaction like Mr. Ferguson’s to the Lord’s Prayer it was followed shortly by “The power of Christ compels you…”

  2. LivinRightinPGH

    “anguish, discrimination, exclusion, rejection and loss of enjoyment of life.”
    I feel the same way every time I want to find a place to enjoy a quality cigar.

    People truly need to “get a clue” as to the real intent of “Separation of Church and State”.

  3. American Christianity truly is a formidable force — God’s power being a force through us. The opposition will try to make it’s will be known today with their CFA-Kiss-In. Expect even more media coverage; I expect it to get ugly. Let’s not stop praying: “Thy Will Be Done!”

    • 100%, James. And you’re right: it could indeed get ugly. I haven’t looked at the news yet today, but I am (literally) praying that it doesn’t turn out to be.

      Thanks, as always!

      • I have’n clicked on any links that I’ve seen on the so-called “Kiss-in” yet. On the one hand, I don’t think they deserve the attention. On the other, I probably should get “informed” about what’s going on. But the Olympics on TV are so much more interesting. Let’s just pray… God bless!

  4. Maybe it does give them anguish! Think about the Our Father says.
    First, we’re praising God, then here’s where it gets good. Thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. Yep, I hope it does give them anguish.

  5. Oh, I forgot. They are no longer in control. GOD IS11111111111

  6. They get away with this crap because we keep electing govt officials that have no guts to stand up for their convictions.

    Thanks for the link back.

    • You are completely welcome, Phoebes. The pictures at your post were awesome, and seeing as I didn’t have any of my own, it made sense to link yours!

      As for the first part of your remark, yep, that’s why we need citizen politicians like Mike Kelly (also covered over at your place) to stand up and do what is needed, regardless of the fallout.

  7. By the way… FYI… I am about to write another thank you post for another blogger award. I’ll be passing it your way soon. I believe I recently passed a couple of them your way recently. If you want, you can piggy-back and lump the two of them together. God bless!

  8. :lightbulb: Wonder how many heterosexuals who support gay marriage will show up at the kiss-in and plant a sexual kiss on a member of the same sex?

  9. I agree with you that these cases are specious and ignorant on the part of the complainants. Good luck to the Canadian who is claiming harm due to prayer or the irrational claim that a cross in a logo representing a town disregards constitutional tenants.

    The complaints make the complainant look more foolish than reasoned and do more harm to their cause than good. If they truly believe that reason should triumph over faith, then, let them present a well reasoned argument against prayer in public buildings or the need for strict secularism on pictorial depictions that represent a town where both people of faith and secular perspectives reside.

    And for the record, this opinion is being offered by an atheist – me.

    As to the “kiss in”, while on the surface it sounded like a good idea, in effect, it was counter-productive to the protester’s cause [alleged to be Mr. Cathy’s donations to anti-gay hate groups]. The purpose of the protest was to highlight bigoted beliefs and destructive funding of groups that the GBLT community views as lacking reason and overflowing with bigotry and hate.

    Considering that the protesters’ participation merely added to the very coffers funding their enemies, in the end, those who participated worked against their own rational self-interests and demonstrated little difference in moral purpose and honest intellectual expression regarding what they view as the irrational and improper thinking and acts of those with views similar to Mr. Cathy’s.

    In my view, neither side gains any increase in stature from this kerfuffle. This event does nothing to serve the advancement of man as a civilized, rational, creative and thinking being endowed with a mind that seems to have no limits and an innate desire and respect for advancing individual liberty and justice for all.

  10. Hey, Rick,
    Well worded and reasoned, as usual, partner.

    Much as when I refer to Feminists or Leftists, I am almost always referring to the “Intolerant-Activists” (you know, the jerks) among the Atheists when I use the term. I have family and friends who are atheists, agnostics, …and everything else.
    Honestly, your view is what I would expect of a freedom-loving, reasonable person, regardless of their religious views.

    I only slightly disagree with you, my friend, since the entire CFA I view as an overall positive, but I admit I say that guardedly. People have a tendency to “do” something like this, feel good about themselves, and sit down. Unfortunately, ridiculous and specious (I really don’t include that word enough; thanks for using it!) attacks like these are reminders that we can’t afford to lower our guard, or a whole bunch of these cases get through while we were dozing.

    Although the phrase “Freedom Isn’t Free” is usually used to describe the valor of men and women such as yourself in our Military, it is also somewhat applicable to the battles that we must fight internally, and protect against our freedoms being destroyed from within.

    Thanks, as always, for your time spent here, Rick. Your input is deeply appreciated.

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  12. Canada or not, a specific denomination of a specific religion has no place in government policies, practices, or logos & is clearly promoting said sect.

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